Posted by Timothy Henderson on August 27, 19100 at 12:52:40:

In Reply to: Canary Breeding Questions posted by C.J. Flask on August 24, 19100 at 11:18:33:

: I have 6 canaries: a pair of variegated canaries-the female more green (1) and the dad more yellow (2), an all green male canary except for the tail and stomach which are yellow, and he is the son of the variegated pair (3), an all yellow female canary, which is the daughter of the variegated pair(or the green one's sister)(4), and a pair of red factors (5&6).

: My question is what are the results I will get when pairing up the canaries in different ways, and what you think the best way it will be to pair them up, when I plan to have each female only have a maximum of 2 cluthes. I was thinking of putting the 2 variegateds together (since they are the original couple), then put the green canary with the female variegated (to get more green canaryies) and the yellow canary with the male variegated (to get more yellow canaries).
: I would then put the green canary with the red factor female (to get red-brown canaries) and the yellow canary with the red factor male (to get orange canaries). Finally I would put the reds together to get more red factor canaries.
: Is this a good idea? and what would happen if I put the green with the yellow? Would I get a golden brown canary? And would I get a red brown canary by putting the green with the red, or an orange by putting the yellow with the red? Thanks.

In terms of appearance (and marketability) of the young, you want to keep the Red Factors together.

Variegation is the result of incomplete dominance between the factors for melanin and clear. A bird with two genes for clear is a solid light color -- yellow, white, or red. A bird with two genes for melanin is solid dark -- green, blue, or bronze. If the bird has one gene for melanin and one gene for clear, then it's variegated.

Variegation is of variable penetrance. This means that the young might be heavily or lightly variegated.

Green or otherwise dark birds don't sell very well. For this reason, I'd not use the green male at all. I'd use the variegated male with both the variegated and the clear yellow hen.

Mating a green with a yellow gives all variegated.

Mating a green with a clear red factor gives all orange (poor quality red factor) bronze variegated.

Mating a red factor with a yellow gives all orange (poor quality red factor).

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: : I have 6 canaries: a pair of variegated canaries-the female more green (1) and the dad more yellow (2), an all green male canary except for the tail and stomach which are yellow, and he is the son of the variegated pair (3), an all yellow female canary, which is the daughter of the variegated pair(or the green one's sister)(4), and a pair of red factors (5&6). : : My question is what are the results I will get when pairing up the canaries in different ways, and what you think the best way it will be to pair them up, when I plan to have each female only have a maximum of 2 cluthes. I was thinking of putting the 2 variegateds together (since they are the original couple), then put the green canary with the female variegated (to get more green canaryies) and the yellow canary with the male variegated (to get more yellow canaries). : : I would then put the green canary with the red factor female (to get red-brown canaries) and the yellow canary with the red factor male (to get orange canaries). Finally I would put the reds together to get more red factor canaries. : : Is this a good idea? and what would happen if I put the green with the yellow? Would I get a golden brown canary? And would I get a red brown canary by putting the green with the red, or an orange by putting the yellow with the red? Thanks. : In terms of appearance (and marketability) of the young, you want to keep the Red Factors together. : Variegation is the result of incomplete dominance between the factors for melanin and clear. A bird with two genes for clear is a solid light color -- yellow, white, or red. A bird with two genes for melanin is solid dark -- green, blue, or bronze. If the bird has one gene for melanin and one gene for clear, then it's variegated. : Variegation is of variable penetrance. This means that the young might be heavily or lightly variegated. : Green or otherwise dark birds don't sell very well. For this reason, I'd not use the green male at all. I'd use the variegated male with both the variegated and the clear yellow hen. : Mating a green with a yellow gives all variegated. : Mating a green with a clear red factor gives all orange (poor quality red factor) bronze variegated. : Mating a red factor with a yellow gives all orange (poor quality red factor).

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